Chop suey houses recognized by new regime as detrimental

From 100 years ago — April 17, 1913 — Duluth News Tribune:

23 Comments

in.dog.neato

about 12 years ago

I'm surprised they didn't mention opium dens. I loves me a good opium den.

Bret

about 12 years ago

The Nazis are after him again.

Paul Lundgren

about 12 years ago

I'm sure this will remind some people of Bob's Chop Suey House in Superior.

The painting below is by Claudia Stack, done from a 1992 photo.

Barrett Chase

about 12 years ago

I would love to drink wine in a closed or heavily-curtained booth in a chop-suey house. Someone please bring this entertainment option back to the Twin Ports.

Paul Lundgren

about 12 years ago

I think the closest thing these days in Duluth is the Cantonese House. 

 

I swear I had wine there once a few years ago, but the online menu doesn't mention it. There are no breakout dining rooms, but the rest of the restaurant is generally vacant if you go there during off-peak hours, so it's a similar experience, but falls a bit short of ideal.

emmadogs

about 12 years ago

We need more veritable breeding grounds of vice downtown, that's for sure.

I think this is the best old article find ever.  Worthy of framing in every breeding ground of vice left in town.

udarnik

about 12 years ago

What is the "segregated district" mentioned?

spy1

about 12 years ago

Newspapers couldn't use the word "prostitution" back then, apparently. You'll see phrases like this: Segregated District for Fallen Women. Many cities had no way of controlling the rampant evil of the saloon/prostitution model so "allowed" them to run in certain areas only to keep better watch on them. As from this article, various ploys were used so no one could see what was going on. By 1913, Duluth was running with the nation in clearing out these areas of ill-repute.

Barrett Chase

about 12 years ago

The Cantonese House has the right color scheme, but has nothing close to a "closed or heavily-curtained booth," which is vital to the whole vice-ridden enterprise. It is obviously complying with the ordinance, since it is "open to a free view of the police and the public without the slightest concealment." Curtains have been taken off, partitions removed, and immoral characters have been kept from congregating.

But bringing things back to a more serious note, does anyone know if these laws still apply? Let's say I wanted to open a business that serves wine and chop suey in a heavily curtained booth? Would that still be illegal?

emmadogs

about 12 years ago

Spy1, so Duluth essentially had a "Hamsterdam" area?  Neat!

emmadogs

about 12 years ago

and Barrett, please please please do it.  Please.

Ramos

about 12 years ago

I saw immoral women and depraved white people congregating on West Michigan Street just the other day, outside R.T. Quinlan's Saloon. It must be a negro club.

Mister Digits

about 12 years ago

Emmadogs -- I reckon that Duluth had more than one "Hamsterdam" area ... the attached article mentions Michigan Street and its African American clientele, but on Rat Avenue (St. Croix, which ran parallel to Lake on the Lakeside in Canal Park) was the heart of the Finnish neighborhood known for its brothels, thirsty dockworkers, and cash-carrying lumberjacks just out of camp.

Mister Digits

about 12 years ago

(Well, in the Michigan-St. Croix area there may have been just one big Hamsterdam, but it hasn't been my impression that everyone was mingling at the time.)

Tony D.

about 12 years ago

Duluth's unofficial official red light district was along St. Croix Alley behind Heimbach Lumber along Railroad Street to Sutphin Street (the landscape has changed considerably since then). In this pocket the insurance maps marked buildings FB for "Female Boarding Houses." It was said that if the ladies stayed within this area, the police would leave them alone. Residents of many other boarding houses, and even owners of confectionaries, on South Lake Avenue were arrested for "running an immoral house." I have a piece on Canal Park before it was known as Canal Park in Crossing the Canal. I will post it to the Zenith City History archive soon and let you know when it is up.

St. Croix Avenue was renamed First Avenue East and is known today as Canal Park Drive. Finnish Immigrants gave it the nickname Rat Avenue. More abut Finn Town.

Tony D.

about 12 years ago

Almost forgot: the mention of West Michigan Street indicates Duluth's Bowery.

Tony D.

about 12 years ago

Spy1, please email me when you have a chance: tonyd @ zenithcity.com

davids

about 12 years ago

Since Finn Town has been mentioned--I'll mention the novel St. Croix Avenue by Lauri Lemberg. 

When I first moved to Duluth I was looking for info about early 20th century era and found this novel, which I remember had fair amount set in the "red light district" of Finn Town in what is now Canal Park. While bound by literary conventions of the time (written some time in first half of century and republished by Työmies Society in 1992), it had some pretty interesting descriptions of the cultural matrix of 1920s or so Duluth.

Duluth public library has a copy. So does UMD library. Probably in Superior lib and UWS too.

Fun read for anybody interested in earlier times in Duluth. I'm sure it's been referenced somewhere in one of Tony D's interesting historical pieces.

Barrett Chase

about 12 years ago

Emmadogs -- we'll have two items on the menu: red wine out of a box (served in a cloudy plastic decanter), and beef chop suey out of a can (served on paper plates). Any lip and the 90-year-old waitress will slap you hard across the face. If the cops come around asking questions about you, no one saw or heard anything.

emmadogs

about 12 years ago

Barrett, I'm envisioning something more elegant and discreet for your new business venture.  So maybe barrels of harsh red wine, from which you can pour endless amounts into old, chipped,cloudy glass carafes originally made circa 1910.  And really-surprisingly-great-but-I'm-suspicious-where-that-beef-came-from chop suey, served on old, scratched and chipped china plates.  A quiet, hushed environment with languid ladies strolling around the red-draped rooms.  Quiet, that is, until someone gets a little too rambunctious and the large, handsome matron gives you the look that shuts you up.  

Oh, and no cops to worry about, as many of them use this establishment for their off-hour shenanigans.

in.dog.neato

about 12 years ago

Opium. Den.

Can't be Chinese without an opium den.

The Big E

about 12 years ago

In the late 19th c., St. Paul had an
informal regulation strategy that characterized the official stance toward brothel prostitution in St. Paul from 1865-1883. During those years, madams and their prostitutes were arrested, charged, fined and then released to resume their activities, with the implicit understanding that the process would be repeated on a monthly basis. This open regulation of brothel prostitution ensured a certain degree of stability for prostitutes and their customers, creating a "stable marketplace for vice" (p. 34). As long as brothel madams and their prostitutes paid their monthly fines and sought to keep drunkenness, violence, theft and other disorderly behavior to a minimum, the police left them alone. Prostitutes who did not adhere to these guidelines were subject to harsher sanctions. Those who behaved themselves, however, could ostensibly remain in operation for several years.
... and in Virginia, the 1880 census noted the presence of a large brothel, enumerating its impressively large staff and noting their occupations. Someone should go back and explore the extent of such developments in Duluth.

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