Duluth’s Downtown Casino

As someone still fairly new to town, I’m not sure I understand the whole story behind the legalities of the Fond-du-Luth casino downtown.

Is it located on sovereign Indian territory or is the Fond du Lac band just the landlords? Why do we have such an eyesore that encourages anti-social behavior in our downtown at all? Isn’t there some way to make it go away entirely in favor of  say, a museum, or a book store, or affordable housing, or a cafe?

[BTW — I come from a family of origin where the scourge of gambling wreaked havoc. Yeah, yeah, I know people can enjoy gambling and do it responsibly — but can’t we at least leave that out of downtown and off in Nevada or on reservations? (Of course, I don’t think it’s really healthy for reservations either, but if that’s a sovereignty issue I respect that.)]

27 Comments

Vicarious

about 13 years ago

Can of worms: opened. Good question about how it works, though. Did the tribe buy a city block? If so, how does that land suddenly become sovereign?

wildgoose

about 13 years ago

No analysis of the issue would be complete without a read-through of some of the coverage of this issue from the  Nah Gah Chi Wa Nong (Fond du Lac) Tribal Paper 

Also, in the comments to this  PDD post  that from about 6 months ago, someone thought maybe that the Downtown Duluth Casino was some sort of atonement for the loss of a large section of Duluth that was alotted to Red Cliff's Chief Buffalo. I thought that was an interesting argument.

I'm not sure how I feel about it all, to be honest.  I will say that I wish the City of Duluth and Fond du Lac Band could make peace on this issue and move forward.  Both governments have many challenges and opportunities that we face and I would prefer that we be able to do it together.

Ramos

about 13 years ago

I did a little background research on this a few years ago. Here's my notes.

The brainchild of Mayor John Fedo's administration, the Fond du Luth Casino was originally co-owned by the City of Duluth and the Fond du Lac band. In the mid-1980s, the city and the tribe successfully lobbied Congress to designate the old Sears building in downtown Duluth as tribal land, so that the band could put a casino in the building. Representatives of the Bureau of Indian Affairs expressed strong concerns, saying that "the purpose of taking land into trust is to preserve Indian homelands," not to sidestep state regulations and build casinos in random locations. Nevertheless, Congress approved the change. The Fond du Luth Casino became an official part of the Fond du Lac reservation, and remains so today. This arrangement was the first of its kind in the nation and has not, to my knowledge, been repeated since.

The casino opened in 1986 as a bingo parlor and steadily added games and slot machines from that point on.

Under the original agreement, profits from the casino were to be divided up as follows: 25.5 percent would go to the tribe, 24.5 percent would go to the city, and 50 percent would go to the Duluth-Fond du Lac Economic Development Commission, a seven-member board set up to oversee the casino, to spend on economic development. Essentially, the commission was a third body of government, composed of members of the tribe and the city, but separate from both. Conflicts within the commission were immediately apparent, and grew worse as time went on. Meetings were often acrimonious, and votes were frequently split along tribal/city lines.

In 1988, the federal government passed the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act, saying that Indian tribes needed to have sole ownership of Indian casinos, and that Indians should collect at least 70 percent of the profits. The law was intended to protect Indian casinos from infiltration by organized crime. In Duluth, the Fond du Lac band began to argue that the new law voided the 1986 agreements with the city, and that the band should have full control of the casino. When the casino began to show a profit, in 1992, one $500,000 payment was distributed in accordance with the original agreement. After that, the profits were put into an escrow account each quarter, to await a final legal decision on the casino's ownership.

In 1993, the National Indian Gaming Commission ruled that the 1988 law superseded the 1986 agreements. Rather than challenge the ruling in court, Mayor Gary Doty's administration decided to make a deal with the tribe. Under the agreement, the city received a lump sum payment of $9.7 million and the tribe got sole ownership of the casino. The agreement also gave the city 19 percent of net video game revenue from the casino each year until 2010, when the agreement would be renegotiated.

That's about where we are now. You can fill in the rest from recent headlines.

D-Pain

about 13 years ago

Thanks for the summary.

Also
"until 2010, when the agreement would be renegotiated."

Oh god, did they really agree to agree or am I misunderstanding this? Aren't there any lawyers working for the city?

Ramos

about 13 years ago

I have to admit, I was stunned by the recent ruling that the tribe doesn't have to pay the city anything any longer. I had sort of been expecting the negotiations to result in a smaller percentage of slot machine revenues for the city, like maybe 7 or 8 percent. Shows how much I know.

There is no question that the casino has been a very substantial source of revenue for the city over the past two decades. If that revenue is eliminated, the effect will be quite severe. 

But, then again, whose fault is it that the city depends on that revenue so much? The city's. If we had put it in permanent escrow, we'd have $100 million by now. Instead, we've spent it on everything under the sun.

Ramos

about 13 years ago

Here is something I wrote on the issue almost five years ago, back when nobody cared. Since then, the city has spent over $30 million more from the CIT fund.

Ramos

about 13 years ago

And still our taxes and fees go up. Amazing.

hbh1

about 13 years ago

It is undoubtedly true that there were dodgy dealings regarding Chief Buffalo's land allotment where downtown Duluth is. If you read Van Brunt, Jerome Cooley or Woodbridge/Pardee's histories, it is apparent that shenanigans/racism within the land office (and perhaps some financial troubles with Buffalo's adopted son) led to Buffalo's descendants being deprived of their land.

You don't often find VanBrunt or those other guys saying much in criticism of their fellow Duluth "Fathers," but it's pretty clear the whole deal was a mess and was made a mess by people who wanted the land. 

I don't know if this has any connection with the casino deal, but I've felt since I moved here that it was some kind of justice that they would get a property down there that made the tribe some big bucks. 

I'm more disappointed in the City for depending on that money deal than I am in the tribe for, apparently, following the law.

Don Ness

about 13 years ago

Facts to consider:

1) The Band did not have the right to establish a casino in downtown Duluth without the consent and partnership of the City. Without that agreement, there is no Fond-du-Luth casino.  

2) The contract provides the citizens of Duluth 50 years of financial benefit related to the establishment of a casino in downtown.  In contrast, the Band would receive the ability to game on that location until the end of time.  50 years is a long time - forever is much longer.

3)  We have a contract signed by both parties, approved by the federal courts, and the then-Chair of the NIGC.  The now-Chair of the NIGC (a political appointee) has a different opinion.  We disagree with the idea that an opinion by a political appointee should have the power to invalidate provisions of a contract.


The Band has done everything in their power to invalidate the partnership and the rights of the City under the contract.  

The Band is not "following the law" - it has succeeded in changing the interpretation of the law as it relates to our contract.  The Band went to the NIGC and essentially said "please find us in violation," the NIGC did just that. Then they went to the Courts and said "we're in violation, so take the rights of the City." With the last ruling, that is what the court did.

The contract was established with strong protections for both the Band and the City.  In succeeding by stripping the City's rights under the contract, the Band has triggered those protections.  

The City's position is that the partnership should continue and provide value to both the City and the Band.  That's what we've been fighting for this entire time.

The Band has been seeking to invalidate the partnership.  But at what cost?

spy1

about 13 years ago

To expand on the mayor's "protections" comment, from the Northland's News Center, "Possible Closure on the Horizon for Fond du Luth Casino":

Duluth mayor Don Ness says that decision could invalidate the entire 1986 contract between Duluth and the Fond du Lac reservation. If that's the case Mayor Ness said the casino would have to be shut down. "There is a provision that says, in the '86 contract, that if the thing implodes, if the contract implodes, the city becomes the lease holder of the building until, 2036," says Ness. While the land on which the Fond du Luth Casino sits is held in Federal trust for the Fond du Lac band, the mayor says under the terms of the original contract, the building itself would belong to the city, and that's where concerns about the future of the casino arise. "If the city is the lease holder of the structure there obviously can't be any gaming because the city can't game." Tribal chair Karen Diver in Washington D.C. for a meeting, responded by phone, saying Judge Nelson's ruling doesn't invalidate the entire 1986 contract, only the provisions that were found to be out of compliance with the National Indian Gaming Commission regulations. Those provisions include the payments to the city, control of casino operations, the length of the 50-year contract and the city's access to casino records. Chairwoman Diver went on to say she feels Mayor Ness is being vindictive in his reaction and she's concerned that should the city shut down the casino, some 300 people, who work in downtown Duluth, would be out of a job. Mayor Ness says he doesn't want to see the casino shut down but if the contract is invalidated by the Judge's ruling, the city wouldn't have a choice because Minnesota cities cannot have gambling. However if there is no contract in place and the Minnesota legislature legalizes gambling as some lawmakers are fighting for...the Mayor says the city would welcome a state-run casino. "What we would like to see is a continuation of the agreement and the partnership that we've had in place for the last 25 years, but the band has succeeded in voiding out those protections and now the city, because of our financial situation, and losing those revenues, we have to look out for the best interest of the taxpayers," says Ness. Both the mayor and the tribal chair acknowledge that the contract is complicated and that they're still working to fully understand its implications. The Minnesota legislature is expected to take up the issue of expanding gaming to include off reservation casinos in January.

David

about 13 years ago

Yukkh on both sides.  Better to get rid of the casino and find more socially productive ways of employing people and more socially productive uses for downtown property.

Jim

about 13 years ago

Gambling, tobacco, synthetic pot, bath salts, pornography; these are all industries Duluth supports. I'm not saying our mayor personally does, but damn it, how can we as good citizens have a clear conscious when we admonish the industry but profit on the taxes? 

We shouldn't be in the gambling business, period. We shouldn't ban smoking in public places then collect the taxes for roads and bridges. We shouldn't allow drug dealers in our downtown area selling mind-wasting chemicals that are frying our citizens minds, all the while accepting them as members of our Chamber and again collecting taxes. 

Make a statement, mayor. Throw out the trash. That can be a legacy you and your children could be proud of. Do your damnedest to keep the Casinos on the rez, and don't fold when the state decides to renege on its deal with the natives to allow public casinos. Don't sell lottery or scratch offs in town. It's state-sponsored stealing, and everyone knows it. This is the same business the mob has been running for years, known as the numbers game. 

Drop the Last Place on Earth from the city tax code and do your best to prevent it from selling intoxicating chemicals that are illegal to used for those purposes. For crying out loud, you protest junkies should be up in arms about this, as it does nothing to help society, and everything to hurt it. 

In my opinion we are faltering as a society. We can't pay our bills, so we resort to stealing or taking advantage of those who can afford it least. Watch the people who go into that casino on a daily basis. They are walking in with the thought they'll hit it rich and walk out with more than they came in with. It's not entertainment, it's licensed theft, and we're allowing it to happen. Shame on us.

Lake Street Louie

about 13 years ago

Sleazy, degrading establishment. According to an old local newspaper article, the head of security there was once arrested for rape and kidnapping! WTF??? Duluth does not need this.

Sam

about 13 years ago

Just to clarify, does the band's invalidating the contract mean that the city can legally have the casino closed and take back the land?  Is the contract clear on this, and legally binding?

wildgoose

about 13 years ago

Wow, this is complicated.  Wow.

So out there on the horizon somewhere Duluth might get involved in the state-run gaming argument?  The band owns the land - in perpetuity - but the city owns the building?  While we're on the subject what role might the band's ownership of the Carter Hotel play in this ... discussion?

Is this one of those things bound for the US Supreme Court like hunting and fishing rights did?  It seems that complicated to me.

EP

about 13 years ago

Shut it down. Make Jim Carlson pay you a bunch of money for peddling synthetic garbage instead? Nah, another bad idea. Just shut the casino down, it seems like trashy business. Tribe should give up the money it owes the city.

hbh1

about 13 years ago

Thank you for clarifying the City's position, Mr. Mayor. I had not understood it til now.

Ramos

about 13 years ago

I suspect that the band is fighting for every penny because they need it to pay off the loans for their $120 million Black Bear expansion, the first balloon payment for which came due in April of 2011, according to this Business North article.

I am annoyed by Tribal Chairman Karen Diver's quote in the article provided by wildgoose, above. "I'm always a little dismayed that they call it a partnership when really all it is, is money," said Diver. "Why don't we be clear about what it was about? It was always about money and only about money. There was no partnership."

I don't think anybody's questioning that it's about money—-but that's what business partnerships are supposed to be about. We need partnerships (that is, legally binding contracts) to determine who gets what.

My opinion is that the City of Duluth has enjoyed an outsized income from the casino for 17 years, and that this income should probably be reduced for the next 25 years, through negotiation with the tribe. I don't think it should be eliminated, because I have a huge problem with big developers using their influence to invalidate contracts that they wish didn't exist. We have seen this happen before in the city, and I hated it every time.

Sovereign nation or not, in this case the tribe is acting like a typical big developer. I am behind the mayor on this one, and hope he fights.

As for the historical karma of the situation...well, yes, that could be happening, too. Perhaps Chief Buffalo is exacting his revenge on Duluth.

Rose

about 13 years ago

Think about it. Who was here, first? When Casino money is threatened, there is no problem with the tribes totally ending all Casinos. So what would Minnesota have to do in order for that to happen? Give the land back. Most tribes are for that, are you? Have respect for the land you are walking on and maybe you can understand, better.

Larry

about 13 years ago

Black Bear was paid off several years ago.

Ramos

about 13 years ago

Yeah, right.

Larry

about 13 years ago

Nah gah chi wa nong - Di bah ji mowin nan | October 2008 | Page 9
Wally Dupuis column

We are now the proud owners of the Black Bear Casino Resort. After considerable discussion and review of our finances, a decision was made to pay off the construction loan. The RBC, as well as programs and divisions, will have to tighten our belts a bit on spending.

Ramos

about 13 years ago

Okay. I have to admit, I've been through the reservation archives before, as well as the archives of other media, researching casinos and casino financing, and I missed the two sentences on Page Nine of the October 2008 issue of Nah gah chi wa nong where Wally Dupuis says, "We are now the proud owners of the Black Bear Casino Resort. After considerable discussion and review of our finances, a decision was made to pay off the construction loan." 

Given all the hoopla surrounding everything Black Bear Casino-related that had come before, including a lot of discussion about the financing, I guess I was expecting something a little bigger for such a momentous occasion as paying off the loan--like maybe a front-page headlne or a media-wide press release or something. That's my fault for not reading carefully enough. I apologize.

It's interesting to note that on the same page as Wally Dupuis's bizarrely understated announcement is the first mention in the reservation newspaper of issues regarding profit-sharing at the Fond-du-Luth Casino.

Chairman Karen Diver writes: "The agreement with the City does not comply with the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act, and the City will have to prove it earns the money it takes from the Casino, or else it is just a tax."

Either it is a coincidence that these two things happened simultaneously, or they are related. I believe they are related. I believe that the band is scrambling for every penny because the Black Bear expansion is affecting their finances. If it paid off its $120 million construction loan so early, the money had to come from somewhere.

zra

about 13 years ago

The land I'm walking on and the land my house sits on has belonged to many different peoples over the millenia...whether be secession, succession, attrition or force, it has been passed down and/or taken from those who came before me ... as I will pass on and it will pass to someone else. The land doesn't belong to us. It belongs to the children of our children's children.

Makoons

about 13 years ago

As a descendant of the Fond du Lac reservation with many enrolled friends and family members, let me first address Jim's comments.

I can see where your outrage comes from if these are your personal ideals (no smoking, no drugs, no gambling, etc.) but we must remember in the interest of freedom and equality, that not all people hold these and they can be avoided by personal means. 

Ojibwe people and many First Nations peoples in general have been gambling as far back as we can remember, except we used the moccasin game instead of shiny slot machines. It is a very old cultural trait and not something we deem as "dangerous" or "morally corrupt." 

Like anything, there are people who abuse gambling or allow it to overtake their lives, but why should all be punished for what some cannot control? I freakin' love food and have been slightly overweight my whole life, but I don't think that means Duluth should close its Mcdonald's franchises. 

If you don't agree with gambling, don't go to the casino. Don't like synthetic drugs? Don't do them or personally support the businesses that sell them. (I don't like them and that's how I deal with it). If you don't like smoking, don't buy cigarettes. It is your responsibility to look out for your own values but not to impose them upon others who do not share in them.

It is my understanding that Fond-du-Luth is the only Indian casino within another city's limits and that laws have since been passed to prevent this from becoming a trend. Fond-du-Luth was grandfathered in.

Finally, I have no problem with my people behaving like other slimy "big business" people because honestly, I believe that if the city or others could do it they would jump at the chance. We are a business and we have a lot of people we serve through per capita payments and other means. 

As a descendant I receive free health care through the Mino-ayaawin clinic and when we're promising free dental services to people who are at least the grandchildren of an enrollee the list of beneficiaries can get pretty long. But, like gambling, taking care of our people in this way is a cultural value. Any business is in the interest of protecting its own interests, and even if the casino does not make direct payments to Duluth there's no denying its presence draws tourism dollars year round. Everyone is benefiting. 

On another note, it wouldn't kill FDL to clean that place up a bit. It's a shit hole on the inside and the outside. Though it has been cleaned up a bit, it is full of burnt out lights half the time and looks like crap. There's no reason, even if we don't work with Duluth as closely in the future, to become a ridiculous eyesore.

Ramos

about 13 years ago

Perhaps the city would jump at a chance to break a contract. I would hate it then, too. That's why contracts are necessary: To transcend the lower instincts of human beings.

Jim

about 13 years ago

OK Makoons. You obviously didn't read my post, or I didn't do a good enough job laying out my opinion. I didn't say ban gambling. I just don't want my government involved in it. I said leave the casinos on the rez so you can continue to rob ignorant whites and your own people of their financial dignity. That's your problem, not mine. I promise you won't get any of my money unless it's to see an aging crooner trying to make a buck or two. That or the tasty buffet. 

Anyway, to further defend my statement, I didn't say ban tobacco either. I implied that I didn't agree with the government collecting taxes on something they say is dangerous and that they ban in many instances. I would imagine your elders agree with me, especially since tobacco is sacred in native culture and abusing it is considered an iniquity. 

I also abhor the synthetic drugs the Last Place on Earth is selling to the profit of 6 mil per year. Again, my biggest issue lies within our government embracing the business or product through collecting taxes and chamber money yet admonishing it for its scourge on society. You can't have it both ways without being a hypocrite. 

My stance is simple. Stop being a profiteer when it comes to these issues. It's morally corrupt. I know you can't stop gambling, or alcohol abuse or any of the other vices society offers on a daily basis. You can, however, keep a moral high ground by not profiting on it. 

Lastly, regarding McDonald's. That's an establishment I wouldn't be encouraging anyone to frequent if I were you. With a diabetes rate of close to 95% for aboriginal males, I guess I'd consider moving toward a diet that is a bit closer to one that natives consumed for the last 10,000 years. The European type diet of gluttony and high trans fat hasn't given the Ojibwe society much benefit. And I think modern day anglos could learn a thing or two about the way native nutritional habits provided some of the longest life spans of anyone on the planet prior to European settlers taking over. Giga-waabamin minawaa.

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