Bowery Bros. Bowery District?

The old bowery district is a part of Duluth’s history that seems to be forgotten, or at least not talked about too often. Bowery Bros. (new pub with delicious food I might add) is located where Duluth’s bowery district used to be. Kinda cool. Anyone have any old stories about this?

13 Comments

@ndy

about 14 years ago

Nelscolicious: If someone is paying you to create posts promoting local businesses, stop acting as though you are a disinterested party and just buy some ad space. (http://www.nelson-company.com/)

Nelscolicious

about 14 years ago

Just looking to hear some old stories about the Bowery District.

@ndy

about 14 years ago

No, you're not. If that were the case, the name of a local business would not be included in the title or the post itself. If you were only looking to hear some stories about Duluth's past, you would also decline to add comments about the delicious food to be had at said business.

You are promoting a business, you are being paid to do so (according to your own website), and as a responsible member of the community you ought to purchase some ad space and support the local economy rather than portraying yourself as an unbiased observer who just happens to enjoy a local pub.

Please read PDD's policies regarding promotional content as I assume you haven't done so already: http://www.perfectduluthday.com/policies/

Sam

about 14 years ago

It appears that @ndy is correct.  See http://nelscolicious.blogspot.com/ and http://www.nelson-company.com/ 

Nelscolicious has only done two PDD posts, and they both promote Bowery Bros.  See the other one at http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/08/live-music-at-bowery-bros-thursday/

BTW, I have some t-shirts for sale at www.buymystuffnow.com! ;)

Paul Lundgren

about 14 years ago

As one of PDD's moderators, I guess all I can say is that if you all could see the posts we don't publish you wouldn't mind this one as much!

But seriously, I approved the post, so you can direct your resentment at me. I thought the pitch for info on the bowery made it not too over the top on the advertisy side. When you have a somewhat open community forum as opposed to a staff of reporters, and many people are plugging band gigs and book sales and so on every day, clearly the distinction is murky (as is stated in PDD's policies).

It is somewhat different that this post originates from an advertising agency and not the business itself, so maybe that's the reason for the callout/protest/whatever. PDD's moderators have never really had a discussion about whether that is inappropriate in all cases or some instances or whether it makes no difference.

Anyway, we'll take this outburst into account and try to develop a clearer policy.

In the meantime, if some bowery history comes out of this perhaps we'll all feel better.

I was going to comment that I remember people considering the Shish-ka-Bar the last remnant of the bowery. I think that place closed in maybe 1998. But, of course, one bar does not a bowery make. So I would suggest the bowery era ended much earlier.

Resol

about 14 years ago

PDD's policy aside, this is an unwise tactic for an advertiser to take.

As most of us become increasingly advertising adverse, the Mad Men of the world become increasingly sly w/ their tactics.  As many come to PDD for genuine community interaction, an advertiser faces potential backlash for trying to hide advertising in that interaction.

This doesn't apply to all self-promotion.  It doesn't bother me if a new store announces their opening in a post under their business name. But if they tried to play it off like they were looking forward to the store's opening as a customer, that's different.

Thanks to Andy for calling him out. Trying to drum up a history discussion about an old neighborhood tied to a new pub is fine, but to do so w/out acknowledging a financial interest is deceitful, and to deny it (as Nelscolicious did) once he was called out is dishonest.   Fail.

Andrew

about 14 years ago

The News Tribune Attic site has been changed to a new WordPress platform, and there is still some clean-up to be done on the old posts, but there is Bowery information here:

Duluth's Bowery, 1950s

Readers added more Bowery memories in the comments, which got lost in the transition. I managed to retrieve them and tacked them on the end of the post. I'm particularly intrigued by the "Classy Lumberjack" bar.

Most of the Bowery was wiped out by the Gateway redevelopment project of the 1960s. In some recent digging in the archives, I found a street scene photo from around that time showing the Club Saratoga in a former location, on Superior Street in or near the old Bowery district. So... would that place maybe be the last link to the old Bowery?

And the Shish Ka Bar did close in 1998: 

Shish Ka Bar closes, 1998

Paul Lundgren

about 14 years ago

One of the old saloons where Bowery Bros. is now was owned by Tom Madden, a colorful character to say the least, who will be the subject of a future post. For now, here's a little Bowery Background courtesy of my Fairy Research Godfather, who found an informative 111-year-old newspaper article.

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June 3, 1899 | Duluth News Tribune

BOWERY IS GROWING
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DULUTH'S CELEBRATED AREA IS EXTENDING WESTWARD
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Thirteen saloons Within the Old Limits, Fifth and Sixth Avenues, Increase to Twenty-five Between Fifth and Mesaba Avenues - Prentice Claim Cloud a Factor in the Creation of the Bowery.

Duluth's bowery is moving westward. Perhaps it would be more to the point to say that it is growing westward, for that is nearer to the fact. The Bowery has usually been described as that part of West Superior street, between Fifth and Sixth avenues west. This block is more than ever the Bowery in almost all of those characteristics that are suggested by the name, but there is an overflow and the Bowery is creeping westward.

About a year ago there were 13 saloons on the Bowery proper—that is between Fifth and Sixth avenues, but now there are 16. Previously to yesterday there were 17, but Tom Madden has moved his place of business from the old stand at 512 West Superior street to the next block west, and yesterday settled at No. 630. Madden says that the owner of the place he has just vacated has decided not to lease it again for saloon purpose.

Between Fifth avenue west and Mesaba avenue, a little less than three full blocks, there are now 25 saloons. There are 10 saloons on the upper side of the block between Fifth and Sixth avenues. Every inch of available space is occupied in the Bowery proper, and there is a growing demand for buildings in the new extension of the Bowery in the block between Sixth and Seventh avenues. The class of buildings going up in that quarter are all one story.

The places of business consist mainly of saloons, fruit stands, second-hand stores, lodging houses and agencies. But the Bowery proper was never so crowded as now. They have lunch rooms down there of about the same width as an alley in a bowling establishment, and when the floating population is large, business is good on the Bowery. A well known real estate man said yesterday that circumstances created the Bowery; that it did not happen without strong factors shaping its destiny. He said:

"The Bowery begins abruptly at Fifth avenue west, and it will probably extend somewhat farther west than Sixth avenue before it reaches its limits. The land embraced by the Bowery was formerly a part of a tract one mile square, which was given an Indian named Buffalo, by the United States government. He never transferred the property, but he left several heirs that did. After a large amount of the property had been deeded and distributed among many persons, a man named Prentice dropped in town and looked up the records. He discovered that one of the heirs to the Indian Buffalo had not joined in the transfer of the property. Prentice got a quitclaim to the entire property from this heir and then proceeded to make things lively. A cloud was thrown on the title. Some of the property owners settled with Prentice in order to clear up their titles. Others went into the courts, where Prentice was beaten after several years of litigation.

"In the meantime the owners of the property in that part of town known as the Bowery were unable to borrow money with which to make such improvements as they would like. The result was small buildings were erected and business block construction on a liberal scale stopped short at Fifth avenue west. By the time the Prentice claims had been thrown out of court the Bowery was well established. It is now firmly rooted, and when fine business structures will occupy that part of town, which they will some day, is hard to prophesy. It does not pay under the circumstances to put up anything better than one-story buildings down in that part of town."

The people that do business on the Bowery say that trade with them is good despite the fact that there are not as many men in town as in some former seasons. The distinction is, however, that the men have more money to spend than in former years. Many of the saloons have music of a more or less indifferent quality, but it is all calculated to induce people to go inside where it is to "set 'em up." Gaudy signs on the windows, the work of soap artists in some cases, are popular on the Bowery, and an expensive shooting gallery outfit does a good business.

Sam

about 14 years ago

The 1899 business model from the Bowery sounds interesting... "set 'em up" at the bars and then give them a gun at the shooting gallery!  We could make a killing! (oops)

Luke

about 14 years ago

That is a really cool article.  I would love to go back in time and see it for myself.  A more likely option would be for HBO or Showtime to make a series about turn of the century Duluth.  Would it appeal to non-residents?

spy1

about 14 years ago

From the looks of it, HBO's Deadwood isn't far off on how the Bowery worked. Looks like we have our own "Manhattan for a handful of beads" story concerning claim to the area.

Les Nelson

about 14 years ago

I used to laugh years ago when driving by the Classy Lumberjack Bar, if there was ever a misnomer...

In the late 1950s and even in the early 60s while home on leave from the Navy, I thought that was one area of downtown Duluth that could stand a thorough cleansing. But, Lake Ave. South looked similar in those days too, look at what happened there, now those old warehouses that housed W.P and RS Mars and others are now a speculators and real estate paradise.

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